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Post by antholin on Feb 6, 2017 2:50:40 GMT -5
100 Points Mid War Tournament, Version 4
Saturday, July 29th
Lists only from the new Desert Rats & Afrika Korps books.
No Fortified Companies.
This is the first Version 4 event at Black Moon.
Starting time: Check in between 1000 and 1030
Round 1: 1030-1245
Lunch/Dress Parade 1245-1330
Round 2: 1330-1600
Round 3: 1615-1815
$10 entry fee
Awards for
1st, 2nd, 3rd (Possibly more, depending on attendance).
Best Painted Company
What better way to get into V4 than to kick off the new edition with a friendly tournament. We will all still be learning the new edition of the game and any challenges that it presents. Inevitably, with a whole new rules addition to the game, parts of the tournament structure and times may change between annoucement and the actual day. Updates and any changes will be reflected here in a timely fashion to keep all players in the know.
Update: Command Cards will be allowed for the Desert Rats and Afrika Korps forces. Fog of War objective cards will not be used.
Please posts any questions or concerns that may arise. Thank you.
Please e-mail all lists to jgimli@gmail.com
Attendees:
1.) Kris Lewis-British
2.) Joe Laderoute-Germans
3.) Jeff Mayo-Germans
4.) Shawn Tester-British
5.) John Kolinich-British
6.) Will Shoemaker-Germans
7.) Michael Humphrey
8.) Chris Kadish-Germans
9.) Blake Hovander
10.) Jamie Struck-Germans
Player list updated 07/28/17
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Post by shoey on Feb 9, 2017 11:55:37 GMT -5
I will be attending and will be running Germans.
Will
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Post by phasestar on Mar 8, 2017 20:41:43 GMT -5
What date is this planned for?
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Post by antholin on Mar 9, 2017 16:22:37 GMT -5
It's set for Saturday, May 6th.
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Post by shoey on Mar 12, 2017 18:44:53 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Version 4 and there is a steep learning curve in learning this new ruleset. This ruleset is a complete change of the game. They just made the game into a skirmish game. Version 2 to 3 was a good update to the game. Version 4 is a complete animal on its own.
I will withdraw from the tournament. I spent allot of money with battlefront to build a Late War Japanese tank company. It's completely worthless to play in version 4. I am not buying into version 4. I am willing to play version 3 of the rules. Version 4 is DOA.
Will
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Post by shoey on Mar 12, 2017 18:58:29 GMT -5
The Deep reserves for a tank company are auto lose in a tournament when you roll off and the tank company is the defender. You only get to deploy one tank unit to defend against an attacker. Joy Joy with Version 4. I only play Tank companies in tournaments. So Version 4 DOA for me. I will stay home with my tank companies.
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Post by phasestar on Mar 13, 2017 17:58:24 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Version 4 and there is a steep learning curve in learning this new ruleset. This ruleset is a complete change of the game. They just made the game into a skirmish game. Version 2 to 3 was a good update to the game. Version 4 is a complete animal on its own. It is your decision, but I completely disagree. It is still FOW and the changes are good and for the most part make the game more historical. Have you tried actually playing a few battles of v4 yet? |
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Post by phasestar on Mar 13, 2017 18:07:20 GMT -5
The Deep reserves for a tank company are auto lose in a tournament when you roll off and the tank company is the defender. You only get to deploy one tank unit to defend against an attacker. Joy Joy with Version 4. I only play Tank companies in tournaments. So Version 4 DOA for me. I will stay home with my tank companies. v3 had issues too - if this truly proves to be a problem for tournaments in actual play, TOs will adjust for it. I encourage you to give it a try, my test games went very well, tank companies are still viable. |
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Post by phasestar on Mar 13, 2017 20:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by joeladeroute on Mar 13, 2017 22:23:17 GMT -5
Version 4 is awesome I welcome the change and I'm excited for the tournament.
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Post by antholin on Mar 14, 2017 2:13:20 GMT -5
Well said Phasestar, well said. I'm very excited for the possibilities of V4 and the North Afrika tournament is going to be a great time.
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Post by phasestar on Mar 16, 2017 15:59:15 GMT -5
I'll post this here as well, but I think it resolves the concern Will mentioned above:
Given that the base rulebook has limited scenarios, the More Missions PDF seems to be the best guideline for experienced players and tournaments.
Interestingly enough on the "Random Mission" table they completely exclude the defensive battles, saying the following "As the three defensive battles (Bridgehead, Rearguard and No Retreat) are best suited to having an infantry-based force defending, we haven't included those in the random missions list to avoid disadvantaging a tank-based force". I think that's as clear a guideline as a TO might want.
Additionally if you have a Tank Company and you are using Battle Plans from the same PDF, which seems like a good system and includes all battles, as long as you choose Prepared Attack you will _never_ be the defender in a Defensive battle. So that entire problem is not actually an issue in both officially recommended methods for choosing missions.
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Post by greenmountainboy on Mar 21, 2017 11:11:43 GMT -5
Thanks, guys! I am hoping to make the May 6th event, but no promises yet. Jamie Struck and I have been playing a lot of Team Yankee, and really enjoying it. So far, I like the changes in V4, and look forward to seeing how it develops. I think the system will be much more accessible to new players, which is also a huge benefit.
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Post by antholin on Mar 24, 2017 5:11:24 GMT -5
Would love to have you both attend. I know you each have, or had, desert armies. Time to crack those bad boys out for a new clash in the Blasted Landscape. Please post any questions you have and hope to see you on the 6th.
-Jeff
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Post by antholin on Apr 5, 2017 5:11:57 GMT -5
Hey all, the tournament has been rescheduled to allow folks more time to get familiar with the new rules set and to learn the nuances of V4. I want everyone to feel comfortable going into the tournament, and pushing it back into the summer will allow for ample play test time, as well as let folks stock up on any new kits coming out for MW, if they so desire. The times of the tournament will still be the same, as well as the specifics on the point build and mission break down, just the date is changing. Thank you all, and please post any questions and/or concerns.
-Jeff
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Post by antholin on Jul 7, 2017 4:00:36 GMT -5
Hello all, sorry for the long delay between posts, but wanted to touch base with folks as the 29th is fast approaching. Here are some updates. Participants will need to download a copy of the V4 expanded missions pack with the battle plan chart which will be used during the tournament. This seems to be an efficient way of handling mission selection in the new rules setting. There will also be official prize support from Battlefront, just waiting to hear back as to any details on the prizes available. I've requested new product related to the North Africa theater, time will tell. We also have some amazing trophies donated by Jose Anes for the tournament, along with some beautiful objective markers to go with the trophies. Please post any questions you may have and be sure to send me your army lists when you have them available. See you all on the 29th. -Jeff www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=5507 |
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Post by phasestar on Jul 7, 2017 9:13:30 GMT -5
I am hoping/expecting to attend, as long as things stay reasonably calm on the personal front.
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Post by greenmountainboy on Jul 9, 2017 8:24:59 GMT -5
I'm planning to attend as well! I can do either brits or Germans, depending on what we need....
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Post by shoey on Jul 10, 2017 14:18:56 GMT -5
Sign me up for German Infantry...
Will
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Post by joeladeroute on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:56 GMT -5
German Armor- Joe
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Post by joeladeroute on Jul 10, 2017 15:36:28 GMT -5
John Kolinich said he will be playing Brits
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Post by antholin on Jul 10, 2017 23:20:39 GMT -5
Excellent, glad to see you all on board. Phasestar, what faction will you be mustering?
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Post by shoey on Jul 21, 2017 22:13:46 GMT -5
The results of Historicon in the weak 36 player field for nationals for version 4 tournament for the east coast. Its a wake up call.
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Post by antholin on Jul 25, 2017 4:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by shoey on Jul 26, 2017 16:19:03 GMT -5
My German Infantry formation ready for action. Let's rock version 4 at Blackmoon Games. My Brumbars are a proxy for the Loraine Shiecpers.  US Masters 2016, Will Shoemaker |
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Post by antholin on Jul 26, 2017 19:39:47 GMT -5
Just a reminder guys, please send me your army lists by Friday. My e-mail address is jgimli@gmail.com
Thanks,
Jeff
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Post by phasestar on Jul 27, 2017 13:35:09 GMT -5
Sorry guys, more family issues this week mean that I can't make it this weekend. Wish I could be there.
If any of you are willing to drive a couple of hours and get together on a weekend day in SW VT for some v4 or v3 FOW, please drop me a line. I could host two tables here.
Ironically I've been up in Lebanon fairly frequently this year, just mainly during the week as I've been shuttling my mom to the hospital and back so there's never really a chance to do much more than drive by. Hope to be able to drive up there and game again later this year.
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Post by shoey on Jul 27, 2017 20:21:26 GMT -5
Phasestar is not a revelation. I think it's been the same the last 6 years for a tournament. Just hoping you would show up for a tournament you sign up for. Phasestar is a dud for tournaments.
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Post by antholin on Jul 28, 2017 0:25:33 GMT -5
Sorry guys, more family issues this week mean that I can't make it this weekend. Wish I could be there. If any of you are willing to drive a couple of hours and get together on a weekend day in SW VT for some v4 or v3 FOW, please drop me a line. I could host two tables here. Ironically I've been up in Lebanon fairly frequently this year, just mainly during the week as I've been shuttling my mom to the hospital and back so there's never really a chance to do much more than drive by. Hope to be able to drive up there and game again later this year. I'm sorry to hear you can't make it, but there will always be more tournaments and events in the days to come. Keep your eyes peeled on the forum for future activities. -Jeff |
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Post by antholin on Jul 28, 2017 4:08:53 GMT -5
Hey guys, tomorrow is the big fight in the desert, really looking forward to it. Be sure you bring a copy of your army list as well. See you all on the battlefield.
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